Q. Is the future bleak?

I think maybe my disbelief in chemtrails could be due to a fear to admit that the world is a worse place than I want it to be. It takes a lot to dislodge me from my usually more positive view of human nature and more positive view of my country and the world. I often see the discussions at the Gspot as being fearful at times. My fear: If chemtrails are really a widespread poisoning of us all then we are seriously screwed.

 Many people (both people I know and others I meet) are convinced the end of the world is near and a collapse of civilization is imminent. Virtually every conservative I meet believes this. I don't recall ever hearing such things before. My friend Denise and her 'converting' to fundamentalist Christianity also seems like her response to this feeling, or idea, or fear. I can't make up my mind which to call it. She tells me it's time to ready yourself to meet god and we're about to go through a terrible collapse. Prophesy says it's so.

My sister is essentially a modern shaman and I have asked her if she senses anything as bad as this coming and she says no. That her perception is we are moving to create a much better future. She has a positive view of the future. I have felt the same way for a long time. Am I biased? And even if I am don't the laws of the Universe make it an imperative to keep a positive outlook so as to create it?

What do you see for yourself and your family-a positive future or a negative one? (in other words is the world about to suffer a collapse?) If it is negative-how do you deal with that?

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     And I think everyone's answer will be different....

     I like your sister's position,,,but I understand Denise's as well... I almost posted a bunch of stuff on Jade Helm a couple of days ago, but I didn't want it to start the "fear" conversation. Now it looks like I might have to drive cross country,,,right through it in a couple of weeks. In case anyone doesn't know about it, our military is staging a 2 month "martial law" exercise starting on July 15th, and every group known is voicing their opinions on it the last couple of weeks. I think it will cover 10 states,,,,Ca.,Az, NM,Co, Texas,Ut,,Nevada, Mississippi,Fla.,,,,,and one more.... I have been seeing videos of long trains of military equipment being placed... Soooo,the gun people think  they are coming for their guns,, religions are saying it is end times, Nibiru folks say it is a diversion, so they can start moving underground and leave us out here to be,,,,Nibiru ed!  Some political watchdogs say they will not stop on Sept. 15th,,,then will cancel the elections, you have to admit,with the end of the fiscal year in September,,and no where else for the bubble to go, it is a little suspicious.... Top that off with the US trying to piss off Russia again, and there's a big basket of fear! Russia and China are offering to erase Greece's debt if they leave the EU(what we all should do, erase all debt I mean), and if they go,,,,,Italy and Spain would probably go too,  which would end NATO, which would finally leave the US no way to hide it's BS anymore.

    Haha! But my point is,,,can we approach this without it becoming a  conversation without fear? I think so. But all that crap flying now is spreading enough fear to produce enough cortisol to kill half the population! Maybe that's their plan!

    Whenever I hear the religions start blasting about the end of the world, and everyone going to hell but them, I flash back to the first zeitgeist movie,,,when they were showing some mis translated words in the bible. Jesus said, "I will be with you until the end of the Aeon",,,,translated to "the end of the world"or "time", But it should be , "the end of the age"... Jesus' reign in the last couple of thousand years carried us through the age of Pisces,roughly anyways. That thought leads me to side with your shaman friend, a positive outlook, as the end of an age,,,, means the new one is coming,,,tHe chance to start a new world,a smarter, better world...

    Of course,, the old one could Go out any number of ways! I know many of us here must be seeing and hearing all this.  I didn't collect the vids and post them,,,there are so many, I didn't want to make a show of it... However, if you search the "meaning of Jade helm" you can find the word's military history. Although the government spokesman sent to calm Texas claimed it means nothing, it does mean something,,a computer program which has compiled ALL that info they have stolen over the years,and compiled it  to form "profiles" on us,,,and everyone else it spied on. It is an AI program that will work with the military to "predict" Who, what and where there "might" be trouble,and take pre-emptive action. That would fit the agenda,,,everything has been pre-emptive since 911 except for the real challenges we are facing... It would also explain their need to do it here, as they have probably spied on us more than anyone else, so they need us to test it out. It was noted that this program will also make very fast decisions,and initiate actions based on it's info,,,,that sounds dangerous,,,a lot of people could disappear!

    Once again,, I am assuming I'm not the only one who has been seeing this stuff,,, it is all over online.

  If,,,after all the "misses" on Nibiru, it shows up,,, we would get our new start, ha! About 45 cultures have documented "nibiru" or whatever it actually is, but,,,because it is reportedly not on the elliptic with it's orbit, no one knows the true length of it's orbit. It was probably responsible for the great floods, but they can still only guess when that actually was. If civilizations are practically wiped out when it passes, that might explain why there is no really accurate data on it's orbit.....Who Knows?

   I did learn some new science while trudging through this "flood" of informaation....  This is cool...Did you know??????...Actual sea level is measured at Cornwall England,,,,but ,,,at the present equator,,,sea level is 490 feet higher! The spin of the earth forms this "belly" of water around the earth,,,tens of thousands of square miles of water! I picture the earth as Budda, sitting of course,,,and the equator is his big belly!  Sooo,,,if we were to have a pole shift,or a close passing celestial body,,,,that moves the equator too! so,,you can imagine what would happen there,,,uh,,ummm,,,here,,,um,,,everywhere! The water would come from the equators and flood the better part of the earth.....  So,,,are we scared? Noooo! That scenario could be much better than a Man-made one! The cleansing would be professionally done,,,,and my only worry would come when the doors of the shelters opened.. I  can't see those on the list to go to shelters as being very "humbled" by riding it out in style below! 

  I hope no one minds me entertaining these thoughts here,,,I have had many solemn moments in the last several years, as I know we all have,,, But I am tired of thinking to myself about it. I go within more than ever now,,,but this damn thing called surviving keeps calling me back out!

  So  Brian,,,I am practically homeless, i"m barely alive, and it will probably get worse before it gets better,,,but I would still go with your shaman friend,,,I can feel what she's thinking!!!

   Thanks for letting me vent a little here,,this jade helm crap has been driving me nuts!

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I've come full circle in the way that I view what is happening in the world.   I no longer post the more negative topics because I feel it ultimately adds to the darkness.  Also, I've finally relinquished the idea that I need to save the world by waking people up.  Now, I believe that everyone has their own journey, wherever that may lead.

Events like Jade Helm and the numerous false flag "attacks" are designed, in part, to instill more fear.  I think there's a real danger in groups of people visualizing the end of the world because our thoughts are powerful manifesters of physical reality.  This is not just a New Age idea but is actually a spiritual principle that has been practiced worldwide for over 100,000 years.  We know it as Shamanism, and thankfully, there are still pockets of people who are using it to reharmonize the planet.

Will humans suffer a collapse of all that we have come to know?  In my opinion, it is inevitable.  As Jesus said, you can't put new wine into old wine skins.  Personally, I welcome the collapse of the old paradigm (as rocky as it may be).  The sooner we say goodbye to this dysfunctional system, the sooner we can create something better.

I am optimistic that we have moved into the age of enlightenment.  As Todd eluded, we have moved out of the age of Pisces.  At the same time that the Mayan calendar ended, the earth passed through the dark rift of our galaxy's center.   That doesn't mean that everything will be love and light now.  Rather, we are seeing more polarization.  No matter the issue, we are witnessing deeper divisions between people as we gravitate towards one side or the other.  

But I think we're nearing the end of so much duality.  I tend to agree with those who say that we  are transitioning out of the third dimension and into the fourth.  The earth is evolving and so are some (not all) of her inhabitants.

I know it may sound like science fiction, but people tend to be so focused on the last few hundred years that we forget about the natural cycles that happen over millenia.  One important thing we can do to prepare for whatever happens is to do our inner work.  I've learned from Fred and others on this forum not be afraid of looking at the dark side of life, especially the shadows which exist within myself.  To me, the task at hand is to find the balance between extremes.

And although I fear pain and suffering as much as any mortal, I take comfort in knowing that my soul is eternal and cannot be destroyed.   As a holographic fractal of the Divine, I know that no matter what takes place in the physical, my eternal essence shall return to Source unscathed.

Hey Noa,

Christ was here 2000 years ago.....break that down......people can live to say 100....thats 20 people to cover 2000 years......

not very practical, so....

halve it, cause  using 100 you could only meet the next person before you die......so go 50,

lets say you pass your knowledge on to the next link in the chain, say people live to 65, would give you 15 years with the next gen to teach the "stories".........

then 40 people could track history for 2000 years.....sound like the native way......

as you said our history only goes a couple of hundred years and then it's lost or only left in the winners tales....

2000 years is made out to be forever but it s just a blink....20 lives.....there are trees older than that.....all to few now....

here the  whole east coast of Australia is basically a flood plain....but it only floods every 40 or 50 years....and then people call it a natural disaster.....

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Wow. So much stored up. I'm always surprised by how different each persons perspective is. Noa, I relate to that cosmic view-about well...going home to god I guess-reuniting with the divine or at least dissolving into it. I also get your feeling to want the crap to end-stop the current dysfunctional system. I'm TIRED of the heavy straightjacket I put on each morning when I get out of bed. All of the strange and bad things I've adjusted to.... Tscout-where do you fit so many thoughts-HAHA! I am also feeling nearly homeless-minuscule paycheck to paycheck and now my job is ending and could either go away or I might move to a buyer of the company. don't know. Yikes.

I have heard about Jade Helm but thought it was over reaction-Internets making us scared:

  I saw a funny-ish critique of vaccine fears 

 Sorry if that rubs anyone wrong but it's worth considering applying that perspective and humor to many things we are learning through back channels. People can "know enough to make them dangerous". i mean they can get into trouble over nada. That above attempt at humor is very mainstream but it also can be an aid to not going overboard. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. BUT...the strange thing is that every time I'm sure it's safe to dismiss some worry from the internet like Nibiru I find out some body else thinks it real and WTF!!!!!!!! So I'm back to another unresolved worry on the mountain of worries about things I can't change!

OK-maybe that's what I really want to know Q How do you cope with your worries? (or do you even worry about these things?) Personally I eat too much, watch TV too much and put many reminders on my computer to do this or that or reread some article or watch some video that I felt sure I better not forget THAT.

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For aeons doomsday predictions have loomed large.  For aeons humankind have inhabited the planet. Many of the doomsday predictions have fizzled away without coming to fruition. I find worry to be a useless emotion.  Often what we worry about never comes to pass.  Often what we worry about is based on fears that proves to be untrue. Fear paralizes us.

I choose not to worry.  I choose not to give credence to all the negatives out there simply by focusing my thoughts elsewhere. Am I burying my head in the sand and denying darkness exists? Hell no.  But it will not be where my energy goes. I will not waste my precious life force dwelling on such things. Only on an individual basis can we make any change at all.  I can't change any of you, or any other thing 'out there' directly. But my own thoughts - I can Master them. I believe self mastery is the greatest lesson we came here for.

The shaman shapeshifts, visions and dreams the world into being.  Becoming like a hollow bone, he/she asks to be filled with pure Spirit and given answers, guidance, medicine... all by going within and searching, sifting through the darkness.  I consider that what we all are doing, on one level or another, whether we realize it or not. We're sifting through the darkness, we're stepping through the veils, one by one, we're seeing without eyes what our hearts have known all along.

We seem to be quite a fatalistic race, calling up our extinction rather than realizing the beauty all around us and our ability to correct our way of thinking and 'dreaming our world into being'.  Enough dreamers 'do-ing' can change this place, change our future history, correct what needs correction.  One by one with focused intent and right action.  That's what and how I believe.

Beware false prophets!

I prophesy we will bring us back from the brink, breathing fresher air, drinking cleaner water, raising children surrounded by circles of loving adults witnessing the perfection of their existence, elders teaching protection of our planet, sharing what Gaia bestows upon us without greed or malice toward any. I could go on and on...... HA!                         onesong

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You could start by throwing your TV out the window.

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   I love hearing the different views too,,, Everyone is in a little different place with the "dark stuff"....That was what I was sensing,,, I don't post much here,,,but I wanted to bring this recent stuff up,, because, for those of us who kind of ignore the dark stuff, so as not to give it any power,,,and for those who think they can stay balanced by just "keeping positive",,, I wanted to suggest some kind of middle ground. Like,,,Why doesit have to be considered dark stuff? When I back up and look at it, all these "options"or "possible scenarios" lead to the same place.... Nibiru, or any celestial event relates to our "dropin the bucket" of time we spend here compared to the Earth's presence.....   So does the cycle of civilizations that self-destruct... 

    I have thought the same exact thoughts of everything I have read here...  Remember Bill Wood? the special forces guy who claimed to have worked doing remote viewing with a very powerful high ranking group? He talked about the timelines coming together at some point, and then things might start to actually happen!  Maybe we are at that point,,,like ten lines merging into one,each one beingone of the scenarios, or agendas. If he was right,,,"they" know this, so it is like a race to forward their agendas...

   It is obvious they are trying to instill more fear,,,but that doesn't mean we have to receive it that way. We can be all of these wonderful things that you spoke out in your comments. I have a little more interest in the Jade helm thing now, because it looks like I am being set up to drive through 6 or 7 of the states involved,so I feel the need to see what people are thinking in response to it... I just want to wade through it and make my way up to washington state...   If I get a new driver's license next week,,I'm going, I had trouble getting one here in Fla.,,,they are in the real id thing here already... other than that, I don't have a real address in america anymore, I didn't register for obamacare, I haven't been on the books here since 2008, and I have been harassed in the airports when returning from china,,, so I'm not crazy about roadblock, security checks,and that kind of stuff.... It will be an adventure!

    So,,,while I'm saying I think we should all be open to talking about these things,,,I'm not disagreeing with anyone,,,   I hear everyone say,,I am this way,,,or,, I am the other way,,,maybe as "observers", we can leave "what we are" out of it,,, our past experiences don't matter here,,,  we are charting new territory....  There are a lot of positive sides to this.... What if,,,,the 130 military people at the pentagon that have been fired in the last year or so were the ones that should be fired,,, and the military is actually on our side? Wow! That would be cool!    And how about David wilcox's new news leak? Look that one up! Ha! He is known as the boy who cried wolf now!, but, like disclosure,,it could be tomorrow,,,or it could be in a year,,check out his new one,,addd a week ago, it is only a few minutes long! 

   This is the most amazing time,,,and hard time too!, but I want to embrace it,,,without any fear,,, so my goal is to take that shit they're flinging, and use ot for compost,,,let's grow something with it!

  Oh,,,and Brian,,,,all those "thoughts" in my first comment weren't my thoughts,,,, I was just listing some of the scenarios "in the news".  There are so many right now,, it's fascinating! L,,,,T

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Thanks so much for this great question, Brian, and to everyone for their thought-provoking answers. I particularly appreciated Noa's thoughts and her concluding comment "Although I fear pain and suffering as much as any mortal, I take comfort in knowing that my soul is eternal and cannot be destroyed."

I have practically no doubt that consciousness exists in eternity always and forever. And if I'm wrong and our consciousness eventually ceases to exists, does it really matter anyway? I have no desire to merge my consciousness back into one, as I'm quite enjoying being this unique fragment of the divine. I suspect we have all co-created this existence as a way for each of us, as individuated expressions of the All That Is, to explore further into what it is we all want together. We're still figuring it out in each moment.

And yes, I suspect that if enough people focus on the doom and gloom, it will bring events which reflect that to our world. But for those of us who get that this is a grand cosmic play, if a huge tidal wave comes, we can get out our surf boards and have fun with it.

Everything that happens is an opportunity for us to choose. Do we choose love, or do we choose fear? Do we choose to see ourselves as victims of something greater than us, or as powerful creators who are integral parts of the divine unfolding of life and existence?

I choose to have fun and to embrace all of my emotions, including fear, as powerful teachers which help my consciousness to learn and grow. Even though I just had one of the most challenging months I've had in decades, I see how much I learned and so appreciate it! What an amazing place to learn and grow we have all co-created here. And if you want to be reminded of the bigger picture in life, I most highly recommend you read "Journey of Souls" by Michael Newton and "Far Journeys" by Robert Monroe.These books so help me to keep things in a greater perspective where I know that ultimately it's all a most beautiful game we're co-creating together.

Thanks again for this great thread and I wish all of you and all of us a great ride through this journey of life on planet Earth.

With profound love, joy, and warm hugs,
Fred

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"I find worry to be a useless emotion.  Often what we worry about never comes to pass.  Often what we worry about is based on fears that proves to be untrue. Fear paralizes us." That's cool onesong and I sometimes acheive that, but I am nearly always unaware of the fact I've drifted back into BEING the voice in my head (rather than being still and noticing it). In fact the voice tells me I'm frustrated by how much I am my ego...haha never a break from those shenanigans.

"The shaman shapeshifts, visions and dreams the world into being." And boy do I LOVE that. It seems like the most useful thing to me and the goal of all of you around me. Shamans all! Following the Transformation course and getting doses of positivity infused into me, I felt a sense of ecstacy and excitement-things were possible again! I felt free to be myself because I knew there was a community of people that would support me-and there is! I'm sorry to be such a dunce sometimes but for some reason, this time around, I have an inordinate amount of crap to wade through(full of shit?).

" Oh,,,and Brian,,,,all those "thoughts" in my first comment weren't my thoughts,,,, I was just listing some of the scenarios "in the news".   Got it. With me such things take up a portion of my attention and thus produce concerns like "well what if that's true?" Creates anxiety just having them in my head somewhere.

"Remember Bill Wood? the special forces guy who claimed to have worked doing remote viewing" Sorry I know I said this before but he appears to be a flat out liar and a pervert. He was convicted and jailed for raping a 12 year old family member. I've listen to his taped courtroom confession...He's a complete sham. Never served as a Navy SEAL either.

"And yes, I suspect that if enough people focus on the doom and gloom, it will bring events which reflect that to our world. But for those of us who get that this is a grand cosmic play, if a huge tidal wave comes, we can get out our surf boards and have fun with it."  I am buying wax for my board this weekend...oh and want to read those two books-thank you!  BTW I often believe that if just one person holds the positive thought it stands a chance of becoming just because we are all connected... Sometimes I think we alone turn the tide-and it can be at any scale.

"start by throwing your TV out the window." I laughed out loud at that one. It's not a Boobtube Noa, It's a YouTube Boobtube so I can't throw it away...who says boobtube anymore? ugh

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boobtube, boobtube, boobtube....my grandson has a field day with anything related to boobs Brian so I am LOL as well.  And by the way he's also quite good at reminding anyone with a big butt that it's following behind them.  He even used to sing 'big butt big butt, butt butt butt'...at 5 he is already such a little 'man'.  ;)

Seriously though, I'm all for throwing the TV out the window most of the time and I could go on an endless rant because now we're paying for even more commercials and less decent programming than we did with analog TV but I'll save that for another day. Over 100 channels and it's all sh*t!

Your question here sparked a great conversation...you are never a 'dunce' but if you want to wear that hat I'll let you...though it always reminded me more of a wizard...so start conjuring up the world you want my brother!  Peace, love, Light, understanding, and all good things to you this day.  love kristyne

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I've followed all the Jade Helm stuff and sometimes get a little worried but I always keep in the back of my mind that Alex Jones has been talking about these type exercises since the 1990's and yes, government has gradually gotten worse but nothing dramatic other than 9/11 happened. So I don't expect much to come from Jade Helm.

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     I know it was another name for tv. But it had nothing to do with boobs,,,especially in those days.Tv was so good and wholesome then,,,,but not really authentic, at least not the sitcoms... I think people actually picked up on the effects it was having on them way back then. If you called someone a "boob" it was a mild or friendly insult. Like being slow, or brainless, or spacey,,,which is just what watching tv does to you. I don't know if they likened that to a boob, or breast, but when they put the two words together, it sure stuck! Boobtube! Boobtube! boobtube!  It is a great name for it!     I was selling my sage sculptures at a market a few years ago, and a 9 year old boy came over. He wanted to trade me one of his t-shirts for one of my hummingbirds. He had designed a shirt tht said,,,"tv rots your brain" , complete with a caricature of a boy's brain oozing out of the side of his head! What a great kid!

     As for the rest of this post,,I really enjoyed it,, but didn't get my point across. Like Fred said, He likes to dance with it,,,good or bad....  This is what I was trying to get across,I guess I have been in info overload since I returned to the US,I haven't been picking my words  very well. If we are truly going to dance with both sides, then I think we have to drop the labels.  Jade Helm is not a negative topic, only the reactions to it are. I  mean the reactions on  the internet, which is why I used it. It opened a big can of worms for everyone caught in a belief system. Their reactions , fear, anger, end times are all based on their "beliefs" from their religion,or views about the government. If we are "past that" then we should be able to walk through it, bring the light to it, transform it.

     I learned something about cancer recently, and, because I see my body, and the way it works as a microcosm of our world, I think it fits here...    Did you know that, there are several treatments now, some are just nutritional, that, instead of just killing the tumors , leaving them to be expelled from the body,causing much strain to other organs  like the liver, and even death to some patients,,,, they kill the microbes inside the tumor, then the cancer cells are actually converted to healthy cells in the body, what they were meant to be in the first place?  I find this amazing, and, expanding it to my world view, see any of these things "called" negative as just another tumor that can be "transformed" with the proper approach.....

     Since I have been on this site, I have shared and understood every viewpoint I have encountered here. This post is a good example. I agree with everyone here, but right now, I feel the need to walk  through it, avoiding it has got me nowhere. I have been back in America since March, and have felt so much stagnation here, where I am anyways, I have never felt so frustrated. Yeah, some of it's me, because I let it slow me down too,,,   But now, after spending a lot of quiet time, sitting by the ocean, something is telling me to cross this land again. Maybe it's just the hope of finding a new place to do something productive, some way to help. I have also had the most incredible urge to go to new zealand!!!...What's up with that Eyejay? Am I missing something there? Ha!,,,,L,,,,,T

 

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Check the temperature of NZ man-incredibly comfy!      "they kill the microbes inside the tumor," WHAT?! Thats' so great. Talk about shape-shifting the paradigm...

Dunce...No-just frustrated with my mouth and the things I say when I'm unsettled. I get a kind of intellectual grouchiness when I'm stressed and get frustrated and impatient. Regret it later.

Wendy-after I started listening to Alex Jones(a few years ago) I got so worried about stuff I started feeling chest pains. I got these from work stress in my 30's and so I knew I had to back away from the stress. Worked like alka seltzer-oh what a relief it was! Was also the start of my awareness of the danger of becoming depressed or angry by events. So thanks Alex

 

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        mIcrobes, parasites, etc.,,,we all got em... some of the same ones that were in the mastodons,,,they are survivors.... Bob Beck discovered they could,and do alter our metabolism to store fat,like squirrels storing nuts.  Then came Hulda Clark, who put forth the proposition that these "bugs" were the cause of cancer. She might not of been correct about them "causing" cancer , but there was a lot of doctors who took the time to dissect the core of the tumors,(instead of just  sampling for biopsies), and confirmed that the varmints were in there! Everyone thought she was crazy,,,,but,,,now,,they have found out, she was right! sHe won't get credit for it, and the battle will go on for a long time as to  whether they actually cause the cancer,or just attach to those abnormal cells,,,but,,,they hoard all the food in the body,the sugars first, 10 to 1 over normal cells.....   Soo,, as a microcosm of our world,,, who do they remind you of? haha!    Now, some pretty brilliant doctors are injecting patients with chlorophyll,,,then waiting 24 hours. The cancer cells love this stuff for some reason and hoard it 90 to 1 over normal cells. After they eat it up,,,the doctors activate the chlorophyll with light,,,or sound at the same frequency if it is deepin the body,,,and voila! The chlorophyll turns to oxygen inside the tumor, kills the "bugs", and the cancerous cells convert to normal cells... The rife machine does the same thing, kill the bug and the body will take care of the tumor..

    Now, if we could just find the formula to do the same thing to those parasites in control!Tongue out

  Haha! Alex wired me out too, I could never listen to him, But he makes his points,, and lately,being a Texan,he is making  a lot of noise about Jade Helm. hE is convinced this is the  beginning of the end,,,,

   i am excited to be here

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Boobtube - yes, it refers to someone being a boob -- a stupid awkward person, or a simpleton.  Probably invented when people were more consciously engaged in life, so TV junkies seemed odd.

Jade Helm - it could be the 'beginning of the end' as Alex rants, or it could just be another scare tactic like the bird flu, N1H1, ebola, Sandyhook -- you name it.  If it were me, I'd err on the side of caution and stock up on staples just in case something crazy happens.  Otherwise, try not to worry; worry does nothing but incapacitate you, and most of the things we worry about never come to pass.

New Zealand - it seems to have a nice vibe, quite different than Australia.

Microbes and Zappers - A few months back I bought a Sota Silver Pulser and a Magnetic Pulser.  The first is like Hulda's zapper, except you can control the current and it also makes colloidal silver.  The latter is a powerful electro-magnet that goes deeper into tissues.  I can't say I feel much different since starting my daily regimen, but I think the magnet is reducing my cellulite.   (I didn't really just say, "my cellulite" did I?  That means we're family, now.  Smile

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    I mean,,,calling someone a boob was Kind of a "gentle insult", so,,were they implying that "boobs" were  bad because they just,,,,,"hang there"? haha!

   Hey Noa,,that silver pulser is actually an electroporator,(hope I spelled that right). I think it is better  than a zapper in the long term. If you haven't seen those old lectures by Bob Beck, he describes the difference between a zapper and the pulser,,,one is higher amps and low hertz,,,the other is higher hertz and lower amps. I don't get it,,,but, the original patents on the device that was invented said it had cured aids,cancers,crohns, and several others. Obviously ,it was buried, even after live petri dish demos for the AMA. The owner of SOTA Corp was a personal friend of his, and eventually produced it for him..... Areyou doing 3 hours a day with the pulser? I have the magnetic pulser and never got any dramatic results, it was designed to reach the lymph systems, and deep tissue like you said. But, I lent it to several people and they claimed incredible results for old ailments..   Haha,,,that mag pulser is essentially an old camera flash,,,a coil wrapped in plastic... Beck was very wealthy, as he was the inventor of the old camera flash,,,

    You know,,,there are some clinics using colloidal silver for lung cancer now,,,they vaporize it and the patients just breathe it into the lungs,,,simple and effective, I think there are a couple f vaporizers available now online....

   I don't know if you read Beck's story,,,he was a physicist,,,so fat he wasin a wheelchair,,,he tracked down the schematic to build the electroporator,  and tested it on himself,,, he lost 140 pounds,  and grew most of his hair back, later he cured late stage aids patients in a study in California,  but they refused to publish his reports,,, I had a lot of respect for his story,,he spent his own money to research it, and the rest of his life travelling the world lecturing and giving away blueprints to everyone who came to his lectures. Back then he said that it cost less than 5 bucks in parts to build one....

    I hope it works for youSmile

 

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most people experiencing any form of end of the world view are experiencing a sense of "an end to their world" view IMO.  I feel fine when I think past myself and sense the inviolate (yet sometimes violent) nature of the Cosmos.

An end to our own personal illusory sense of something cannot really be all that bad can it?  Especially when we realize what an utter and complete phenomenon most sensory experiences are.  What we sense and what it is is completely different.  Knowing that makes me not worry so much.

Most of the time we worry about that which will never happen and do not worry about any of the situations that surprise us and blindside us.  I felt awful coming back to work after two weeks vacation, but I experienced all those awful downer feelings prior to actually returning to work!  Being here right now at work "in the present" is not nearly as bad as my imagination made me to feel yesterday.

Life is one big acid trip!  Orange slices anyone???

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Yes, Todd.  I watched many Bob Beck interviews and I also researched various zappers and the Rife machine before deciding to go with Sota.  I'm only doing 10-15 minutes a day with the Silver Pulser because it itches.  Unlike Hulda's zapper, you attach the pulser to your wrist.  The idea is that all the blood eventually passes through those pulse points.

Sota Instruments is very careful with their claims.  Although they collect testimonials from clients.  They don't publish them. 

Customers regularly share their experiences with our units. We would love to share these testimonials with you, however we are unable to because of the current political climate around health.

Hear No, See No, Speak No Monkeys PictureAt this time in history, there are a growing number of regulations controlling health and consumer products - regulations that limit the information we can share. We are grateful, that as consumer products, we are allowed to let you know that our products are for general health, well-being and relaxation. We do not have the freedom to share more specifically how others may have been helped with the SOTA products.

 

Bob Beck, as I recall, died a mysterious death -- similar to Rife.   The AMA has managed to monopolize healthcare worldwide.

I use the Magnetic Pulser about 40 minutes a day.  I'm experimenting with using both the negative and the positive sides of the magnet.

If anything miraculous happens, I'll let you know.

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       Because it is a deep tissue tool,,,it is supposed to kill microbes and things that hide in the lymphs and other hard to get at places, so it's work is done deep,and quietly...

       I am assuming that the companies that made the "hulda clark" zappers had permission, but she wasn't associated with it. They were quite weak,and wanted to sell you a hundred different chips to go in it,to bear some semblance to the rife machine... But a "real" rife machine (one that includes the higher frequencies) is hard to find,,,and is 2 to 3 thousand dollars.I have only found one place that is considered "bonified". It was referred to in that series on cancer that was mentioned here back in April.

     Sota is a big company, and these products aren't their focus, just a tiny part of their regular work,,,I am a little surprised that the owner never separated the "health aides" to protect the well established corporation he had built. The mag pulser used to be advertised as an aid in growing plants,,,the photos showed the wand sticking out of the dirt next to a plant. It really does stimulate them, as does the ozonated water.I grew two sacred daturas from the same seed pod, and fed one my well water(which was very good),and the other my leftover ozonated water, and it outgrew the well fed plant 5 to 1, and was covered with the big flowers(they only bloom for one night),it was amazing how much difference it made.

Are those contacts getting dry on your wrists? If not , just turn it down a little,,the 2 hours a day is to get 12 full passes of the blood at that spot....I hope it gets easier for you.I especially admired BB and his friends for continuing to do the 2 hours a day long after they had healed,,,It mst be nice to have your own electron microscope!

    Now,,,back to this post!! Sorry Brian! I forgot to respond to the first sentence in this post! I think it was the most important! When you say that you thought it might be because you "don't want to admit that the world is a worse place than you want it to be", I remembered why I always like what you write! It doesn't get any more honest than that! And you're definitely not the only one. It's just that internal struggle we are wrapped up in, regardless of the subject...always trying to balance what the 5 senses report with those bursts of intuitive thoughts  You know,,, I found China to be so interesting because most people there couldn't even fathom the subjects we talk about. There is such a lack of available information that you will sound crazy talking about many things. aNd not just UFO's,,even things like education. I was asked for my thoughts on teaching language at a meeting, but when I mentioned that maybe we should follow research instead of the worn out methods used in schools, they looked at me like I was crazy, and some were even angry! They all assume that, having gone to college to learn how to teach, they had to follow those methods....

    But,,,, like the guy in the matrix,,,who turned on them, to live a life blind to the world around you is bliss! They are the most positive people I have ever been around, and most live oblivious to the control that keeps them so blinded. So,,, is it ok? It must be on some level, because there sure are a lot of them doing it!

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I thought everyone in China was miserable! So many come here to the states...I was thinking about who I was at 18 today and if I've changed much. In essence-not changed much-in wisdom-I've learned a few things. In spirit-I'm much the same person. I was extremely lucky to be born into my American middle class family with little lacking. I focused on my anxieties and concerns and believed I was a failure. Then I got connected to a woman. Then I had kids-oh my. I got lost in those many married years to myself.

These days (& being divorced) I just work and plug along at this or that. I feel like I don't even care if I have a plan anymore-not that I ever had one. I always just wanted to be close to what is real and at the tip of what is known about being here. What are we? What are we supposed to do? Is there a God? Can I see spirits or talk to God or be completely happy? Can anything be gained by being alive or is that the wrong question. Did the Buddha know anything or was he full of __it? I love questioning things and love scientists. Hey-maybe that's what I am. A sort of scientist-an amateur, a completely whole being who wants to KNOW stuff because he thinks he must uncover some thing he is searching for-some treasure like a fat nugget of knowledge. Anyway.....I NEVER feel natural about being here- (maybe searching for a reason to exist?-like-to be of use?) or to feel whole?)

I feel like some vaguely alien presence on the Earth/universe-not integral to it-not of any fucking use to it. Just a partially aware cog in a cosmic machine. I hope when I die there's a "heaven" and I go to it because I think someday I might die-yup me! Die! Really! Seems crazy. I hope all this questioning is appreciated up there. Like-"hey Brian-we certainly all enjoyed watching you ask questions. You're really good at that. Nice job". I hope no one says ..."nice job-but too bad you all died because nobody at the Gathering Spot would believe you about Global Warming".

 BTW Today I thought I felt my late mothers presence with me so I asked out loud "Mom is that really you?" and my mobile phone went BEEP! danged loud too. I jumped out of my skin!  The battery quit and it beeped at the exact moment she would have said "YES!" if she was there and slightly indignant-just the kind of humor she would show if she was in Heaven. I thought I felt/heard her responses to me talking to her and it was cool. You have to trust in things that are not plainly evident if you want to believe in Heaven.

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well that was rambling

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Hey, Brian, I saw a ghost hunter's show where the spirits kept draining the batteries out of their equipment.  I think it's very possible that your mom was communicating with you through your cellphone.  I've heard that spirits can get annoyed with us when we fail to see or hear them.

Now that you mention it, Brian, I think I'll try communicating with my loved-ones who've passed and see what happens.

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Cool Noa. I will say that this is the first time I thought I felt her around (She died last Christmas time). I just didn't hear/feel anything after she died for months. I felt very sad that "she didn't care" to contact me and resigned myself to maybe never hearing from her.  My brother died 8/13 and I've felt sure I was in contact with him several times. It depends on my willingness to trust that it's possible and I don't always believe it . It's because I have always had a strong imagination so I can MAKE UP STUFF easily and so I used to never trust that stuff arriving in my mind so similarly to imaginary things could be something real.

Remote viewing has helped me trust in my inner senses by rewarding me tangibly with undeniable results. Those things that popped into my head arrived like imagination does-out of the blue and it's up to me to be centered enough and stay 'in practice' enough to remember the subtle difference from imagination. And it's experiential-like "I don't know how I know it, I just know it". It comes in voices from Mom and Tom and I just heard it. It's slightly startling some times. I heard it like it's someone else's voice in my head (but slightly distant ) and similar to hearing it with my outer ears. It has the exact right qualities of their voices. WOW!!!! That's the first time I realised I HEAR them-not SEE them. It's been there all this time but I'm so used to VISUAL RV stuff  being my representation of inner sensing! WOW! I can't tell you how surprised I am by this. Holy crap-cool! I thought I NEVER got anything but visual!!!!!!!!!

BTW-I believe spirits may get annoyed but they have all the love and time in the world so it's not serious-just a part of that personality we know. I have heard so many stories of them being so loving and honest that they can be very regretful and very earnest in asking us to forgive THEM for their failings. It's a 2 way street. That strikes me as how a loving God would design things

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Hello everyone, How are you all doing?

I feel like I've fallen off the face of the earth for a few months. Long story short, I got a new job, put our house up for sale, sold it, and now we're in the final push to pack everything up and move into my mom's for the foreseeable future.

We don't know what we're going to do from here. We're kicking around some ideas, but no firm plans. For the first time in over fifteen years, I don't have things all feverishly planned out, and it's wonderful and frightening! We've been trying to get rid of as much 'stuff' as possible, we've taken truckloads to charity. It's amazing sad how easily we accumulate excess. I want to simplify, depend on less, be bound by less.

I share your fear of the future, Brian, when it seems like everything is going to hell in a handbasket. It reminds me of Alan Watts talking about Hinduism and the Kalis. To simplify and summarize something I don't understand personally, everything works in four major cycles, from a long golden age progressing down to shorter, less prosperous ages ending with the Kali Yuga, which we are currently at the tail end of, which promises wickedness, shorter life spans, folly, and the eventual destruction of society/the planet, to clear things out and start all over again.

We all certainly seem to be participating in a massive drama that is playing this narrative fervently and enthusiastically! It seems that many people I encounter, awake or not, are wishing for but are also afraid of the 'great collapse' and the post-apocalyptic dream. The big question is, have we been programmed to feel this way, so we will unconsciously participate in bringing this about (which we are doing), or are we all (elite included) just taking part in the cosmic dance? Those who try to help or make a difference with the wrong intentions (resistance to what is) can actually contribute to the chaos and destruction by setting off chains of unintended consequences (the road to hell is paved with good intentions).

So what are we caring, sensitive souls to do? The answer is for each of us to discover for ourselves, but I recommend listening to Alan Watts' book "You're It!"

I've got to get to sleep, will chat more tomorrow!

Love, Trish

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Sorry for the formatting, posting with my phone can be frustrating. Good night! 

Update: There! Fixed it when I got to work :-P

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I went looking for the audiobook, but I found this. Just beautiful.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcPWU59Luoc

 

Did you ever notice you were growing as a Child?  And then one day, you were too big for your clothes, shoes and baby bed.  A paradigm shifted.

 

Paradigms are shifting.  Stuff is being transformed.  There is a reaction from those who wish to keep the kids from growing.  And just as tooth paste squeezed from a tube can not be unsqueezed...the Paradigm can not be unshifted.  

 

During this time it is important to Live your Life fully with Joy, with Love, with as much Unity Consciousness One is capable of.  Will there be hard knocks...yes there will be and are.  Without the other Duality does not exist.  Achieving a stability is a process of finding One's center.  

All Luggage must be left at thedoor, Only  Love and all its Unifying Attributes may go through the door...and as One travels to the other place most of the physical life falls away.   

 

Live Life Fully.  Love More and Expect Miracles.  

Blessings to you on this day and all days

--Fairy

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   You know,,,I have left so much behind, and I don't miss any of it,,,except for my family. My two brothers have been exposed to most of the same info we all have here, but, being caught upin their lives(survival< and keeping what they have), has made things uneasy between us. The subject has come up here before, losing friends when you can nolonger give the responses they want to hear, or need, the answers that make them comfortable. My mother and sister haven't been exposed to any of this, they resist it altogether, sooo, if I mention anything "new", something that might challenge that comfort zone, they blow up at me. I only offer things about health or nutrition, and offer the science to back it up, but they would rather stay in that zone. So, there is nothing left there, only small talk. I'm not complaining,,just venting this sorrow I guess.. I don't seem to fit in anywhere since I returned to America, I feel invisible,,I don't get any response from job applications. I have been spinning those wheels for 6 months, to no avail. Normally, one might get some support from their family, but I think they all agree that I've changed, so they are for  the most part indifferent. I don't blame them, I just want to go within, but that is a very uncomfortable subject for them. They, like a lot of folks are just trying to hang on to what they've got, restricting them from taking on any real change......There's no way to finish here,as I am , like everyone else, in the middle of it!..... Anxious to take the next step.....

  Hope you are making magic!!! L,,,T

 

 

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Thanks Noa for the link, it was beautiful! I really enjoy listening to / reading Alan Watts these days. His talks are so irreverent, funny, logical, wise, and entertaining. I love that he doesn't refer to himself as a teacher or guru, but as a philosophical entertainer. 

Here is a link to "You're It! On Hiding, Seeking, and Being Found" : http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00350K8V8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1437867109&s...

Love, Trish 

Blessings Tscout and all.

I hear you on natal family.  I Love mine where they are at.  I used to try to tell them about the Good News and the challenges but they are not ready.  No need to waste my energy trying to help.  The biggest lesson for me was to discern when someone was actually asking for help. Sometimes when people are asking for help is a rhetorical request.  

 

My Natal people help me in ways that they want to.  I have other means to assist myself.

 

Maybe where you are at is just not where you belong.  There may be no compatible link ups for you.  I have left places like that following where it sparkled and found myself in a supportive place.  

The only world we can Save is the World within.  This World determines a good part of what is experienced.  Not all of it but some...and it is enough to make a Life that is lived fully.

 

I planted a plastic Rubbermaid bin garden in my little driveway.  I sat and connected to the Primal Energy of the Realms of Flora and Fauna.  I called and welcomed the many species of bees from Solitary bees to large Bumbles and all in between.  I called and welcomed the Monarch and Butterfly.  And they all showed up.  Abundance Abounds.

 

Happy Trails.  I bless all with Love.

 

Fairy

 

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My favorite Fairy! (and more proof that good things come from NJ). I breathe easier when you're around dearest. "following where it sparkled" is helpful for me too cus it's about HOW to follow your heart. I listened to a woman the other night giving a talk about healing, energy and how things work. She mentioned that when she was still living in France(where she had always lived) she suddenly knew she loved Los Angeles and she followed this bliss right out of the arms of her fiance and great job and moved to LA. Within 6 months she met her future husband there and started a life she feels is meaningful and full. In other words, I think LA sparkled...sounds like good advice

Blessings to you Brian.  It is a subtle sparkle.  Do what brings you Joy (happiness is subjective and dependent on external input that is filtered through perception). JOY on the other hand is intrinsic to the HEART.  We so often are socialized to seek suffering and avoid JOY or ignore it all together.  Ruiz calls this Human Domestication.

 

For me my greatest Joy is found in seeing , crearing, experiencing Beauty.  Beauty is an attribute of Love (Unity Consciousness).

 

Beauty is why when Trees are planted in housing projects crime goes down.  Joy an intrinsic experience is activated creating MorebLove.  Now that is a miracle.

Peace Pilgrim talked about Joy as well in her letters, talks, and interviews.  

 

So to discern the sparkle cultivate that which you enjoy.  Like a really superb cup of coffee...it ain't the stuff...its the experience.  What makes a superb experience of that cup of coffee?  By the way, I really Enjoy a cup of coffee. 

Follow that sparkle you will see it, Brian.

 

Blessings to you on this day and blessings to all on this day.

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