Do I Smell A False Flag?

First of all, my heart goes out to the families and friends and compatriots of those soldiers who lost their lives and were injured in the attack at Ft. Hood Army Base in central Texas today. I live in Dallas and am not far from that installation. It is indeed the most important military base in Texas if not the US. I am completely confounded by what happened there today.

The news casts this evening were focusing on nothing but this incident. By six o'clock they had announced the name of the shooter in this terrible destructive act.

Before I even heard his name, I had a gut feeling that this was not an incidental lose of sanity type of occurance. I took into consideration the efforts the military is pushing to increase the numbers of personnel in Afganistan and the hesitancy the President has shown to make that decision. The more I heard the more I had a very deep gut feeling that this was another false flag attack. The memory of the movie Manchurian Candidate came to mind and then the news announced the name of this American major who was a medical specialist in battle fatique. Hasan! What else but a Muslim name!

I told Ray, my mate to watch! The news will next start broadcasting that this individual has had contacts with Al Qaida and was a plant to create a terrorist attact on the heart of America. The background of this individual is clean, a medical student who has had nothing but high praise in his progress in attaining his medical credentials who suddenly turns rogue and kills and maimes numerous military personnel who are destined for Iraq and Afganistan. He himself was scheduled to be tranfered to Iraq shortly.

I found I had to make a statement of my intuition regarding this incident as I see it as just one more black ops effort to continue the incursion of war and more man power in a struggle which seems unlikely to be of any value to the US or anyone else beside the Industrial-Military complex.

Comments from my brothers and sisters are desired on this issue. Pray with me that I am wrong.

JoshERTW's picture

If you are right I think it will be pretty transparent to most people at this point. Another nail in the coffin of those that seek to control. I haven't heard much about this, saw a tag on my home page but it didn't raise any alarm bells (all I saw was the headline, far from home for me too, had it been in my neigbourhood it would have drawn me in).

It may just be that it hit close to home (geographically) for you and your defenses are up. It could also be a combination of the scenarios you mentioned, that the poor bloke just went crazy, though if he is of middle eastern heritage I wouldn't doubt people will try to turn it into something that it may or may not be.

Think of it this way though, it took something on the scale of 9/11 to hoodwink people into war the first time, although the loss of life is tragic no matter what the 'quantities' involved, it seems a bit small scale for a "galvanizing" event to push the nation back into a bloodthirsty fervor. Mind you this is just my gut instict, I don't even know the full scope, when I last saw a headline it was 7 dead.

I apologize for my Canadian perspective in advance if it offends Wink

 

Josh

 

onesong's picture

this in today from my father, whom I do not see eye to eye with on many issues. This will be controversial to many, including myself. I don't believe guns are the answer, but I do believe we as the people have the right to own and bear them as is a first amendment right. So read this, don't 'shoot' the messenger-lol-but be aware of this. I was not. So in the effort of 'disclosure' here goes....

Now 'all Guns' must be listed on your next (2010) tax return!

As if we didn’t have enough to get upset about! If you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered.

Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It will require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun.

This bill was introduced on Feb. 24, 2009, by the Obama staff, but this bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the new law becomes effective. This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee has passed this without the Senate voting on it at all.

The full text of the IRS amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage, U.S. Senate You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099. You know who to call;

I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.

Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in House: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - U.S.... Open Congress

Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.

Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.|

Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar as a 'minor' IRS revision, and, as usual, the 'political' lawmakers did not read this bill befre signing and approving it !

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:it is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver's License -You supply your Social Security # -You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing -Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. -They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.

If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pass this along. This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it. This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.

Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45

H.R..45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - U.S. Congress -OpenCongress
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show

H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009
GovTrack.us) http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45

whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control, we all should have
the right to choose!! Our Constitution says as much.

**this came with some very bigoted and racist inferrences which I have edited out so as not to pass along the poison, only what appear to be 'facts'.** 

onesong's picture

if you want them send me a message and I will forward them via outside email if you wish to send your info.

oh and, here in the Michigan media, on the 'shooter' at Fort Hood last night, they said he was "a major and Psychiatrist".

JoshERTW's picture

Our local radio also mentioned his rank and that he was a psychiatrist.

Berry's picture

Thank you Kristine for this important information.  I do not own any kind of gun unless a sling-shot qualifies. But I have a lot of friends who do.  I will pass this information along to everyone I know who owns guns and enjoys the right of owning a weapon whether for hunting or protection.

This was indeed new to me.

Berry's picture

We are hearing this morning that the gunman in the Ft. Hood shooting yesteday was heard to shout "Allahu Akbar" before beginning his rampage.  I don't know if this has been confirmed but is seems to be headed in the direction of what I was feeling yesteday. 

A couple of weeks ago, there was a failed bomb attempt in one of the highrise building in Dallas by a young Jordanian man, who it comes to be revealed was "lured" into the act by FBI agents posing as an Al Qaida operative.  The young man was given a fake bomb which he was encouraged to plant in the parking garage of the Fountain Place building and then from a distance trigger it.  He was captured in the process of trying to set off the bomb. What the news didn't emphasize is that this 18 year old had no contacts with any terrorist organizations prior to his being setup by the FBI. He had only on a couple of occasions posted brief comments online as to his opposition to the American actions in the middle east.  This boy is now in jail for the rest of his life for this thing, which he would never have tried on his own without encouragement from the Fed plant.

My point in bringing this up, is that it seems that Texas is being targeted to stir up anger and resentment against the Muslim peoples.  Also I see a possible connection between what happened here in Dallas and what happened in Ft. Hood yesterday. 

I continue to hold Light and Peace and Love for all, as I watch such things developing, knowing that all of this is a final struggle to regain control.

I am not surprised that this is all going down in TX...

 

The Light can not get here soon enough.  The madness of violence saddens me.

Love--

 

elizabeth

I did some checking about the IRS gun bill. 

Here are some links that indicate it is a hoax or misrepresentation by the state Militia movements throughout the USA...   It has been kept on the roster to vote on since 2000 but has not come up for a vote and is not even listed as active legislation.  So, the truth must be somewhere in the middle.  Any society that is mature would have no need for anyone including the military to possess weapons of any kind... I am not sure we are there yet... I myself do not own any firearms but being in Northern New England USA there are plenty that do...  Most of them would choose their guns over healthcare or peace for that matter... you taking my gun you son of a b***h I am am gonna kill you so I can keep my gun and to the hell with any peace in my neighborhood.  Those are the types that have guns... dark cabal fence sitters as far as I am concerned.

 

Love--

fairyfarmgirl

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/s/sb2099.htm

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/06/privately-owned-gun-tax/

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_Senate_Bill_SB-2099_really_exist

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa091900a.htm

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/taxreturns.asp

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/b_three_sections_with_tease...

 

 

 

 

Berry's picture

Thanks Elizabeth for clarifying that issue.  I am glad I didn't forward any information as I had intended to do.   I found it unbelievable that such an bill could have passed the Congress without the NRA raising a hell of a stink about it which would have been published very loudly.  Saved me some embarrasment. 

JoshERTW's picture

Berry,

Sounds like you may be on to something with that FBI story. I guess I'm just an optimist, hoping that it is an isolated incident :)

If you think about it the guy is a phsychiatrist for the military, he has probably been holding some baggage for people who ahve seen and conveyed to him some pretty dark terrible stuff. Someone in his position could easily be pushed over the edge by someone with an interest in doing so for whatever purpose...

Maybe smaller "false handkerchief" operations is the new strategy of the elite, now that anything grandiose is going to be immediately scrutinized by the masses who are waking up. Perhaps their idea is to plant many small seeds and hope that one of them grows...

Magical Godmother's picture

This is a very old urban legend.  

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa091900a.htm

H.R..45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 is real and has been referred to committee but it says nothing about reporting guns on your income tax form.  

 

Berry's picture

The following is a thought provoking article that I ran across which nicely states some of the doubts I had about this incident at Fort Hood.

Written by a veteran named Michael Gaddy and posted on SOTT.NET here is the article.

 

 

 The facts as presented by the Army and the media reference the shooting at Fort Hood just don't compute. While I routinely dismiss any "facts" disseminated by the Army and the state's propaganda wing, sometimes referred to as the mainstream media (MSM), there are some glaring inconsistencies in what has been reported about this tragedy.

First is the report the perpetrator was dead and then hours later the revelation that he was still alive. Exactly how long does it take to determine if a person is dead or alive? Could it be no one knew whom the shooter or shooters were and a story had to be concocted for public consumption? What happened to the two other "suspects" that were detained? What did they do to qualify as suspects and more importantly, what information surfaced that led to their release? One of the suspects reportedly stated he "was with the shooter."

Second is the number of victims from a single shooter. Let us not forget this shooting did not occur at the mall, it occurred on a military installation where the victims had been trained in military tactics and some were combat veterans. We are to believe they did nothing to stop a single shooter and he was allowed to reload several times and continue shooting and the only thing that stopped him was the arrival of a police officer after the gunman had gunned down over 40 people?

And how so very convenient for the state, a perpetrator who was both anti-war and a Muslim; just doesn't get any better than that. Could this be an example of following the philosophy of Rahm Emanuel on dealing with a crisis?

Third was the shutting down of communications in and around Ft. Hood for hours. While the Army and the media will explain this in various scenarios, it also provided the Army with a chance to create whatever story it was they wanted to provide the public on the terrible tragedy. Of course we all know the Army would never distort or lie about the facts involving the deaths of innocents. Well, there is that My Lai thing. People on the ground have told me cell phone towers were jammed to prevent unauthorized dissemination of information after the shooting. Again, the Army would not want any information contrary to the company line emerging from this disaster.

All too convenient for the Army was the rapid release of negative information related to the alleged shooter. It was said he received a negative evaluation report and that he had caused "red flags" to be raised some months ago concerning emails. Do we know anything this detailed about the "suspects" who were released? The caveat was added that it was unclear as to whether the suspect was the author of those emails. So, months ago, alarms were raised about emails the suspect might have sent, yet, in all those months the Army has been unable to determine who wrote them. Yeah, right. If red flags were in fact raised months ago, why did the Army do nothing? Going back to the 9/11 paradigm, we see the same evidence exhibited: the state had prior warnings but did not act on them. This proves unequivocally the government is either incompetent or complicit in both events. Yet, the state would have us all unarmed and depending on them for protection.

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There has been speculation on the Internet that the shooting could have been a revolt against the Army from soldiers faced with stop-loss and multiple combat tours to Iraq and Afghanistan. While there is no evidence to support this theory, there is also no evidence to support the official Army version of events. Suicides among military personnel and veterans are at alarming levels, yet the Department of Defense does more to hide these facts than it does to deal with them.

The last thing the state can let happen is an awakening by its enforcement arm (military and LE) that they are nothing but tools of oppression and in fact, slaves to the monster they serve. While the military is trained and encouraged to kill and bomb in the name of the state, they are forbidden the means of protection for themselves and their loved ones once they are outside the killing zones designated by the state.

All is not normal inside the military community. This is not just seen in our military, instruments of oppression in other countries are revolting as well.

While it is doubtful we will ever learn the truth of exactly what happened at Fort Hood, we know with a degree of certainty the truth will never be revealed by the Army or the media. Could this have been a false flag event to divert the attention of the American public from the debates and planned demonstrations against the health care fiasco? Could it have simply been another MK Ultra event to further demonize the anti-war element in this country and to lay another crime at the feet of the current villain du jour: Muslims? Could there be a connection between this alleged shooter and his fellow Virginia Tech shooter Seung Hui Cho, other than an oblique reference to Cho having a Muslim influence?

One must always ask this question when faced with a story that is issued and controlled by the State: Cui Bono? Wonderful, is it not, the state is empowered with the unique ability to investigate its own lies and the power of the media and academia to demonize any who would question its veracity, and the support of Boobus, whose livelihood depends on the state's power to redistribute the wealth of the nation from producers to parasites.

Michael Gaddy [send him mail], an Army veteran of Vietnam, Grenada, and Beirut, lives in the Four Corners area of the American Southwest.

Yep, everything about the Ft. Hood shooting indicates a false flag operation meant derail disclosure, the PEACE movement and take out those that are questioning the validity of WAR..  The oxymoron of conflict creates PEACE.  If I were not living this I would be laughing at the ludicriosity of this belief system.

How is it an overweight balding guy who everyone loved and felt was a great guy become a Killer?  Hmmmm sounds like spin to me.

Love---

fairyfarmgirl

lefty-dave's picture

Greetings Berry,  The Ft Hood story has changed with every news release, slowly building an opinion in the reader...negative...debasing...do you smell a rat? Soldier revolt will NEVER be admitted by TPTB.

  I, too, smell a rat ..in the MSM.....pre-pare-ing us !

First, money and soldiers to Colombia to fight the 40 year old drug war we can't seem to win....then

Colombia lets us use their bases that border Venezuala....then we denegrate  Chavez....

now stories are surfacing that Russia and Venezuala will do some heavy scientific trading ....then it's nuclear power plants...which will mean we want to monitor their activities...and it's Iran all over again !!!

And more war around the corner....

I have been very distressed lately as I see the deconstruction of freedom and liberty all over the world

I keep asking inside for strength and guidance...but my insides just shake...on a daily basis...

wife says I have to stop reading news...it's hurting more than helping....

Insane congress passing the 'Insurance or Jail' Bill they call health care....more double speak and double cross....

it's all too much !

 

 

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