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And the limitations placed upon whatever beings, having to use WORDS, especially if they've never been human.

And our HTSI (human time space illusion) and having to respond within that framework.

That's why I'm going to drop down and explore for myself. We've come a long way, baby!

But thanks to all those who have come before and have yet to come. Good luck to y'all in the 3D scenario!

;)

I found Seth Speaks to be one of the best books out there for explaining really big picture, meaning of life type stuff. I also read the Education of Oversoul Seven series and found it to be quite intriguing and well written. There is so much great material available to those who open to it. Enjoy!

Getting back to where we started, Fred, what's your experience of Reiki?

I absolutely love energy work in all its forms. I haven't studied Reiki and have only received a few Reiki sessions that weren't very notable for me. I tend to not be so interested in the codified forms of energy work like Reiki, yet I know it really works for a lot of people and fully support that. My own understanding of such things for both practitioners and those receiving is that the more you trust and believe in it, the more it works. I personally love to play with energy, but in a much more free from way. And how are your travels going?

Sounds beautiful, Julie! Enjoy your time there.

Very much agreed he is doing some great work there. I only wish it was $199/yr to be a subscriber and access most of their content.

Ideas... Events... People. I'm an IDEAS guy, for sure. But I do get caught up in the circus spectacle! Barely.

Now I'm losing my marbles cause of people that spend too much time on google earth.

TARTARIA. GIANTS. GLOBAL CATACLYSMIC RESHAPING CIRCA 1812. THE TAKEOVER.

JC on a popsicle stick. It's CRAZY. Looks like our long lost sibling Nibiru and our genetic jailors visited a couple hundred years ago and changed things up a bit.

REALLY gets me intrigued as to WHY. Are we really that powerful that ALL of these methods need employed? WOW. We're holding out on the universe. Time to ENGAGE.

I'm going exploring north a few hours this summer. See what happened to this great inland sea that spilled out all over and helped fuel the gold frenzy. Dig up some truth about our situation...

Everything in modern civilization is based on

this concept of time which is not valid.

People think time works like a watch,

but that's another one of their dreadful illusions.

Ellie, http://www.crystalinks.com/

Row, row, row your boat

Gently down the stream

Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily

Life is but a dream!

Hmmmmmm interesting !!!

Are you?... Talking to yourself?...

;)

The words you say go with one of my very favorite videos. It's only two minutes:

http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/video/love-fear"

It IS, fo sho. And I reckon the wave of ennui is about to topple. Self-responsibility and personal accountability will be the coin of the realm when the other farces collapse under their own inequity.

Probably why the FEW fade away and disappear, because the MANY hold the "reality" in check. But, exponentially failing more every day, because everyone IS inherently different. Politics, religion, sociology FAIL for that reason. It may be the saving grace in the face of the dominant paradigm. SYSTEM FAILURE. "Shooting" for the GLOBAL FAMILY culture! Freedom of personal expression for EVERYBODY! Whoo, baby!

Gonna be WEIRD. I hope...

kool huh ! Nice Fred !!!!

The aerial photo from the website doesn't look like anywhere near Chaco Canyon. And it doesn't resemble the Chuska mountains as visible from a distance on the highway we drove up through Navajo country. Maybe from the other northerly direction as stated above, ihni. We went south toward CC and not into Bandelier NP. Chuska does contain similar phonics as Chakobsa, though, so there may be a connection there...

Regarding the topic above about the original info. I do find it a disadvantage when attempting to meditate on or resonate with the WM art to not have the original music or any notes or notations of it. The only stuff available now is new-agey junk, and I'm PRETTY sure "Soulfoo [d]" is not it. Way too repetitive and uninteresting when compared to the poetry and paintings. Like preschool compared to graduate school. 

Just my opinion, but wish we could dig up more somewhere. Not related to .com

Yes, Chris. I so wish I had access to the original music. I did not even know how to download music back in 2001 when I was exploring all of this. I've had many people email saying they have the original music, but none of what was sent to me grabbed me. Here's what Mark Hempel, who hosts the WM website, had to say about the music:

"The original files were not very commercial-sounding, though the fidelity was outstanding. I heard the files in their original state and could sense the melodies, but it wasn't until after their production that they became musical...at least by my ear's standards."

More on this is available on the link at https://web.archive.org/web/20010603165115/http://www.nexusmagazine.com/WingMakers.html, which I believe has some legitimate and intriguing stuff. Thanks again for bringing this all up.

Much love and warm wishes,
Fred

Hey all! I just wanted to bring this topic back up as a reminder of the intriguing exchanges we've had on this most fascinating topic. Much love to all!

I'm still SO CURIOUS about where the original site came from... AND where the original music is... AND how it ties into our current experience with alien invasions/takeovers, humanity on the edge of SOMETHING HUGE, and what IS time, anyway?...

Yes, Chris. Time is such an intriguing thing. Now is the only time that ever exists, yet somehow we experience time mostly as linear in this physical reality. One thing I know, time has become much more fluid for me since being exposed to Monroe and the WingMakers. Cool and very intriguing stuff!